<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>There's extremely low IRRDB compliance (even awareness) here as well.<br><br>Of those that care to know about IRRDBs, some refuse to join an IX that use IRRDBs and some refuse to join IXes that don't.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png" style="border: 0pt none;"></a><span name="x"></span><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Kyle Spencer" <kyle@stormzero.com><br><b>To: </b>"INEX IXP Manager Mailing List" <ixpmanager@inex.ie><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, September 18, 2017 9:21:33 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ixpmanager] IRRDB back-end not working<br><br>Surely it would be easy to just have the IRRDB system query and<br>display the data in the Prefix Analyzer tool without actually enabling<br>the filtering in BIRD unless that box is checked in the Customer<br>interface? I imagine there are a few lines of code somewhere that say<br>"if the customer's IRRDB box is checked, query and display the data"<br>that can just be deleted so as to allow the data to be queried and<br>displayed anyway?<br><br>There is extremely low IRRDB compliance in Africa based on my<br>observations. It seems to me that, if this minor change could be done,<br>it would greatly simplify the transition to IRRDB for African IXPs and<br>their customers which, in turn, would improve the overall<br>interconnection ecosystem's health across the region.<br><br>On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Barry O'Donovan <barry.odonovan@inex.ie> wrote:<br>><br>> Kyle Spencer wrote:<br>>> If I enable IRRDB filtering, my IXP will implode due to the low level<br>>> of compliance among my membership.<br>>><br>>> However, I do want to work toward enabling it, and IXP Manager's<br>>> Prefix Analyzer tool would be a very useful way for IXP members to<br>>> check their compliance in advance.<br>>><br>>> The IRRDB Prefix Analyzer interface suggests this is possible with the<br>>> top-line message: "Warning! No ports have IRRDB filtering applied so,<br>>> while this information is useful, it has no impact on your services."<br>><br>> I wouldn't pay too much heed to that message. The tool was not designed<br>> for users who do not have IRRDB filtering enabled and everyone at INEX<br>> does as a rule. We won't be developing that tool further as we think<br>> this can be done better using large community tagging by the route<br>> server on filtered routes.<br>><br>> It can be a pain to migrate from no IRRDB filtering to using it but it<br>> is highly highly recommended.<br>><br>> If it we INEX, the way we'd probably do this is:<br>><br>> a) parallel install of IXP Manager with database clone<br>> b) migrate one route server (or create an additional one) that keys off<br>> the second install<br>> c) turn on IRRDB filtering on the second one<br>><br>> There's overhead in that you need to keep the second in sync with the<br>> first but you can script this quite easily (mysqldump ... | mysql;<br>> followed by a single query to toggle the IRRDB flag).<br>><br>> This is pretty much how we went about an peering LAN IP renumbering<br>> recently.<br>><br>><br>> LINX are in the middle of a similar exercise - see "IXP Route Server<br>> Prefix Validation at LINX - Progress and challenges" at:<br>><br>> https://indico.uknof.org.uk/event/40/timetable/#20170912<br>><br>> There should be videos available shortly.<br>><br>><br>> - Barry<br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> INEX IXP Manager mailing list<br>> ixpmanager@inex.ie<br>> https://www.inex.ie/mailman/listinfo/ixpmanager<br><br><br><br>-- <br>Cell/WhatsApp/Signal: +256790884905<br>_______________________________________________<br>INEX IXP Manager mailing list<br>ixpmanager@inex.ie<br>https://www.inex.ie/mailman/listinfo/ixpmanager<br></div><br></div></body></html>