<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'>If there's rack\cabinet names alongside, then there probably won't be any confusion. I haven't had time to go any deeper with it yet today.<br><br><br>Also, you say to include both ports of a duplex port. If the panel itself doesn't provide any distinction between right and left strands, should I manually include that distinction? Ours just have letters for which column and numbers for which row, with a duplex connection occupying a single location.<br><br><div><span name="x"></span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; 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font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px;"><img src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png" style="border: 0pt none;" src="http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png"></a><span name="x"></span><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Barry O'Donovan" <barry.odonovan@inex.ie><br><b>To: </b>"INEX IXP Manager Mailing List" <ixpmanager@inex.ie><br><b>Sent: </b>Monday, March 27, 2017 9:16:14 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ixpmanager] Patch Panels<br><br><br><br>Mike Hammett wrote:<br>> I expanded the help button, which created the confusion as both fields<br>> have similar descriptions. The documentation page does say that you<br>> think they should be the same<br><br>I've reread the help text and I think it reads okay. But appreciate I'm<br>too close to it ;-)<br><br>I've taken a bit from your wording below and will push in the next commit.<br><br>> For example, the reference created for me in 210 N.<br>> Tucker Blvd., St. Louis, MO, USA, Suite 515 is RR502.08.RU41. If the<br>> application just uses RR502.08.RU41 throughout, that means nothing to<br>> me<br><br>The patch panel list includes the names you've given to your racks /<br>cabinets. This /should/ be sufficient along with type (UTP/SMF/etc).<br><br>I'm not sure adding internal (IXP) names / references help in the long<br>term and may lose their meaning when you have 20+ panels.<br><br> - Barry<br><br>> Maybe something clearer in the help button? Just a thought, if this<br>> proves to be the case:<br>> <br>> The name / reference for the patch panel, displayed throughout IXP<br>> Manager. Using the co-location provider's reference is probably the<br>> sanest / least confusing option, but you can use something else.<br>> <br>> <br>> The reference the co-location provider has assigned to this patch panel.<br>> This is used in LOAs and other places, as appropriate.<br>> <br>> <br>> -----<br>> Mike Hammett<br>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/><br>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL><br>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/><br>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix><br>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/><br>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg><br>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> *From: *"Barry O'Donovan" <barry.odonovan@inex.ie><br>> *To: *"INEX IXP Manager Mailing List" <ixpmanager@inex.ie><br>> *Sent: *Monday, March 27, 2017 8:32:28 AM<br>> *Subject: *Re: [ixpmanager] Patch Panels<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> Barry O'Donovan wrote:<br>>> See: https://ixp-manager.readthedocs.io/en/latest/features/patch-panels/<br>> <br>> + the green "Help" button.<br>> <br>>> Mike Hammett wrote:<br>>>> What is the intended use difference between "Patch Panel Name" and<br>>>> "Colocation reference"? Both say to use the reference the colocation<br>>>> provider has assigned. Is it intended for them to be the same or should<br>>>> they be different? Maybe the colocation reference *IS* what the<br>>>> colocation provider assigns, while the patch panel name could be<br>>>> something friendly?<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> -----<br>>>> Mike Hammett<br>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/><br>>>><br>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL><br>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/><br>>>><br>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix><br>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/><br>>>><br>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp><https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> INEX IXP Manager mailing list<br>>>> ixpmanager@inex.ie<br>>>> https://www.inex.ie/mailman/listinfo/ixpmanager<br>>><br>> <br>> -- <br>> <br>> Kind regards,<br>> Barry O'Donovan<br>> INEX Operations<br>> <br>> https://www.inex.ie/support/<br>> +353 1 531 3339<br>> <br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> INEX IXP Manager mailing list<br>> ixpmanager@inex.ie<br>> https://www.inex.ie/mailman/listinfo/ixpmanager<br>> <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> INEX IXP Manager mailing list<br>> ixpmanager@inex.ie<br>> https://www.inex.ie/mailman/listinfo/ixpmanager<br><br>-- <br><br>Kind regards,<br>Barry O'Donovan<br>INEX Operations<br><br>https://www.inex.ie/support/<br>+353 1 531 3339<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>INEX IXP Manager mailing list<br>ixpmanager@inex.ie<br>https://www.inex.ie/mailman/listinfo/ixpmanager<br></div><br></div></body></html>